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12 responses to this post.

  1. Posted by Les on April 24, 2012 at 3:06 pm

    Hi, I am looking for descendants of the Germantown OpDenGraeff family for DNA testing. In particular looking for descendants of Isaac (1678-1745) Updegraff’s son,Jacob line.

    Would appreciate any information you may have.
    Thanks, Les

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    • Hello. Thanks for reaching out. I am a descendant of Isaac’s son Peter. I have recently done my DNA with 23andme, but have not gotten any of my Uncles to do the Y test yet. I’ll send you an email with more info.

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  2. Posted by Les on April 25, 2012 at 5:18 pm

    Thanks. Looking forward to your email. I have DNA for Isaac’s son Harmon line.
    Les

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  3. Dear Mrs. Updegraff,

    since I accidentaly found your blog in internet, I contact you because I know you roote as I do from the dutch and german De Graeff/Von Graben. The family Gräff -as it is written in German now- in Austria established newly a union which has the aim to keep as many as possible Graeff (De Graeff, Gräff, Op den Graeff) people rooting from the old one Family in contact and in exchange. I sent you below the link to our web page and I would appreciate if you by time would take a look of it. Even it would be fine if you could contact the family of Updegraff and give them some information, too.

    I would be very glad to hear from you.
    yours sincerely,
    Mag. Matthias Laurenz Gräff mag.matthiaslaurenz.graeff@gmx.at
    chairmain of the Graeff union Austria
    Obmann von “Familienverband Gräff, Historie – Gegenwart – Zukunft e. V.”

    Web page http://familienverbandgraeff.jimdo.com/

    Just a small part of the beginning of our early lineage

    Ancrestor Wolfgang von Graben (1465/1521) – from the old austrian House of Von Graben, a cadet branch of the Meinhardinian dukes and counts – he has got 2 (alleged) sons
    I) Pieter Graeff (* 1484), my ancrestor
    – Dutch family (De) Graeff (van Polsbroek)
    II) Abraham op den Graeff (1485/1561) married to Matriarch van de Aldekerk (1500-1525), your ancrestor
    – German Op den Graeffs, some of them imigrat to Pennsylvania; the Pennsylvanian gouverneur Samuel W. Pennypacker was also a direct descendant of Abraham
    I) Hermann op den Graeff (van de Aldekerk) (born 1520), married to princess Amalia von Kleve
    I) Anna op den Graeff van de Aldekerk (1557-1613), married to her cousin Johan Wilhelm, Graf von der Marck, Herzog von Jülich-Kleve-Berg (1562-1609)
    I) Hermann op den Graeff (1585-1642) , he got the Graeff-name from his motherside, his grandchildren Abraham op den Graeff imigrat to Pennsylvania (Germantown) in 1683; your roots go back to them

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  4. Dear Katie, here you can find all pics from our Graeff Reunion at Styria, Austria >> http://www.familienverbandgraeff.at/aktuelles/ Best regards Matthias Laurenz Gräff

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  5. Posted by Andre de Graeff on August 2, 2014 at 12:37 pm

    Dear Ms. Katie P.!

    I give you some good advise. Be careful in terms of Mr. Matthias Laurenz Gräff’s fairy tales. He is a bold impostor and liar. Mr. Gräff is pretending all time to be a descendent of the Dutch noble family de Graeff. But that’s just an illusion. In reality his ancestors were plain people from the countryside and there is no way to an aristocratic background.

    With kind regards
    Andre de Graeff

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    • Hi Andre,
      I’m not sure it is your place to determine if Matthias’ ancestors were “plain people” and what’s the point? If not being of royalty or aristocracy means they are plain, then my entire lineage is of “plain” but still very extraordinary people. We are also talking about 450 years ago, with very little sources to go off of. The American Op den Graeff line has some interesting sources regarding its immigration to America given the relationship with William Penn, but prior to that, any relation to royalty or aristocracy is unknown and quite frankly – unimportant. Family history and genealogy in the U.S. is not centered around proving relation to royalty or to determine someone’s rank in society. We don’t have the same monarchical history that most other countries have so it’s generally less important. —my opinion.

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  6. Posted by Andre on August 25, 2014 at 6:53 pm

    First you delete both my comments and now you reply after all.

    I think you misunderstood my message. Mr. Gräff is pretending to be someone he is not. That’s the point. Pieter Graeff is definitely not Mr. Gräff’s ancestor. Mr. Gräff’s ancestors never emigrated from the Netherlands to Austria and his family has no aristocratic roots. These facts can be proved by the parish registers. The Austrian branch of the Dutch De Graeff family is bogus. It’s just a similarity of names. A relation between the Austrian Gräff family and the Updegraff family is therefore absolute nonsense. Finally it’s ridiculous to pay a membership fee for a phony family association.

    If you don’t believe my statement, please verify it yourself.

    Andre

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    • Hi Andre,
      I actually did not delete your post, it just took me a while to approve it (all comments have to be approved first, it prevents spammers). And it did take me a while to reply.
      Thank you for the comments. I hope you did not misunderstand me, I do see what you’re saying. It doesn’t really matter to me if he is pretending, I have seen no information to verify the relationship between the Austrian Graeffs and the American Updegraffs and the connection would have split over 500 years old anyway. Plus, I was not asked or pressured to pay money to join the family association – which I have not so it’s not a big deal to me. I was approached to just share information and make a connection. No harm.

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